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Tuesday, July 20, 2010

+Bow - Review!

This is a review on +bows made by RyanMcNumberz (Ryan201821 over at NerfHaven). Ryan has so much experience making +Bows that i quickly jumped at the opportunity when he had a few newly built sets for sale.

I have seen and tested +bows from other makers before, but after receiving and testing out the +Bows Ryan sent me, i've got to say... the workmanship and the attention to detail on his +Bows are the best i've ever seen!

Review:

+Bow - Side View




+Bow - Split's Plunger Skirt Seal




+Bow - Bottom Plate for Added Stability




+Bow - Smooth Trigger Detail




+Bow - Smooth Trigger Handle with Shaped Foam Insert (Very Comfortable!)




+Bow - Plunger Catch Plate Detail




+Bow - Pull-Back Handle Detail




+Bow - Shoulder Stock with Shaped Foam Lining



As the +Bows are built with USA-spec 1"x½" couplers, i created customized collar adapters made out of nested locally sourced PETG tubes.

These customized collar adapters allow the in-built coupler to be able to fit various local-spec barrel materials that are available in SG.

+Bow - Customized PETG Collar Adapter for ½" ID Smoked Grey PETG Barrels



+Bow - With various lengths of ½" ID Smoked Grey PETG Barrels



And here is an example of how i attached a Brass Barrel Slide Breech to my +Bow:

I customized a 13mm PVC adapter with PETG tube rings to match the +Bow coupler.



Then i joined the Brass Barrel Slide Breech with the custom 13mm PVC adapter using a straight 13mm PVC pipe connector.

+Bow - With Brass Barrel Slide Breech



Brass Barrel Slide Breech - Build Guide: http://modworks.blogspot.com/2010/08/brass-barrel-slide-breech-build-guide.html

And finally...

+Bow - Coat of Arms!



Thanks for the +Bows Ryan!

42 comments:

  1. cool but its still possible to make one yourself here in sg right? Its more fun when you can build it yourself rather than doing it the easy way and buying 1 =)

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  2. VersatileChicken,

    Sure, its definitely possible to build +bows locally.

    If you have the necessary time, tools and materials to make them, anything is possible.

    After attempting for months to make my own +bows with limited tools and materials, i have come to really appreciate the amount of time and effort it takes to make proper +bows.

    Thats why i found it more worth it to just buy good quality completed sets from an experienced +bow maker instead. :)

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  3. Xavier,

    Just pull the pull-back handle to prime the +bow, then pull the trigger to fire it. Simple. :)

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  4. how could i contact ryan?and did it come to you disassembled?if so,is there some kinda instructions telling you how?

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  5. VersatileChicken,

    +bows are commonly built to around 64cm in length (without barrel).

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  6. weaponhazard,

    You can contact Ryan at the NerfHaven Forum. His forum nick is Ryan201821.

    The +bows from Ryan came fully assembled.

    If you are keen to know how +bows are made and assembled, check out CaptainSlug's +bow guide:

    http://www.captainslug.com/plusbow2.html

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  7. Awesome, very cool. This is the first time someone has written a full review for one of my Plusbows. Glad you like them!

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  8. joeri83,

    Around USD$110 each (before shipping).

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  9. will you be willing to sell one? im about to place an order through ryan and it would be so much easier to get one through you.

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  10. mattleesc,

    Well, i'm not planning to sell any of my +bows at the moment, so it'll be best if you order a set directly from Ryan instead. :)

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  11. i just place an order, is there any difference between your smoked petg barrels and us spec piping? curious because i might order a speedloader and hopper clip from ryan, or you could be a real sweetheart and contract me some haha

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  12. mattleesc,

    There are both outer diameter (OD) and internal diameter (ID) measurement differences between the local spec smoked grey PETG tubes and US spec pipes.

    I also use local spec PVC and clear PETG tubes, as well as international spec brass and aluminium tubes for my barrels too. All have different ID and OD measurements which i mix and match in my mods to get optimal fit and performance.

    The tube OD affects the fit in other tubes, pipes and connectors. I prefer to use local spec pipes and tubes so that i have more options to customise and mod my barrels and breeches.

    The tube ID affects the foam dart fit. This is very important, the more accurate the dart fit the better the power and range. It all depends on the particular foam darts you use. The customised foam darts that i currently use fit the smoked grey PETG tubes better, so i prefer to use those tubes as barrels.

    Btw, pop by the NerfSG forum (www.nerfsg.com), you can check out the best barrel material and foam dart fit combinations that other local nerfers have tried and tested too. :)

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  13. hi, i'm from m'sia, may i know is this gun legal here? i've seen people saying this gun has got a minimum 120ft range and that should hurt a very much in close range

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  14. lim,

    Sorry, i've no info on the laws regarding such blasters in M'sia, so i can't comment on it.

    Yes, the +bow design naturally has impressive power due to its large plunger tube and strong spring, though optimising its range also depends highly on the choice of customised barrels and calibrated foam dart designs, as well as the overall air seal and efficiency of the system.

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  15. would ryan be the best to buy a plus bow from

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  16. Josh,

    So far, i've tested and compared +bows from other makers and i've found the workmanshop on Ryan's +bows one of the best. I'd recommend getting +bows from him.

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  17. thanks SG. what barrel would fit streamlines and decapitated taggers the best

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  18. Josh,

    For Nerf streamline darts (and most Nerf foam in general), they tend to have a narrower OD so most modders find 17/32" brass barrels (or similiar tubes/pipes) a good air-tight fit.

    Only issue with using 17/32" brass barrels is that you wouldn't be able to use the larger OD foam darts or stefans.

    You could use the 9/16" brass barrels too, which offers more options in foam dart sizes... but then streamlines will tend to be loose in them so you'll need to make tightening rings so that they sit securely in the barrel and not fall out. Its still not optimal for streamlines though 'cos loose fitting foam darts allow air to leak around the foam darts when fired.

    Note that streamline darts generally don't perform as well in higher powered blasters due to their sub-optimal weight balance, most modders move on to custom foam darts or stefan which are customised with better weight balance for greater range and accuracy.

    So its best to determine the kind of foam darts you plan to use beforehand, and use a barrel to match them.

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  19. S.G. nerf you should do a DIY blaster article on copper pipe blowguns

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  20. thunderdragon76,

    Well, just load a foam dart into a length of tube or pipe with a suitable ID and simply blow it out... need strong lungs to get good range though. :)

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  21. really? I made one that fires only streamlines. they fit into an aprox. 14 milimeter copper tube. the single shots go about 50+ feet and the doubles anout 40+ feet not bad for a pipe with insulation and ductape

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  22. how did you get those smoked petg barrels in singapore?

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  23. ryan.zom,

    I got them from random neighbourhood aquarium shops locally, you'll just have to scout around to find them.

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  24. What is the maximum priming draw on a plus bow?

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  25. MonkOfTheIrish,

    The max. priming draw on a +bow is around 6.5 inches.

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  26. wanna-be,

    Ranges depend on the type of barrel and foam darts used.

    In my configuration, i use a 1ft length brass barrel slide breech matched with customized solid core foam darts and calibrated tip weights, the parallel-to-ground (PTG) range averages around 130-140ft.

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  27. I'm making my own gun how whould you go about keeping the bullet from sliding to the back
    thanks
    p.s. it is loded from the front

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  28. was gone,

    Install a smaller ID pipe behind, or just cut out a small piece of plastic stalk and glue it at the back of the barrel.

    Those method will block the foam dart from sliding back but still allow air to flow through.

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  29. sweet,thanks!! what tipe of glue whould you use?

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  30. how farback whould you place the stoper?
    your the best thanks for making this site

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  31. was gone,

    I use Selleys Super Strength 2-part epoxy glue.

    The part to block the foam dart should be installed right at the back of the barrel, as close as possible to the end so that you reduce any unnecessary deadspace.

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  32. Do these perform better than your sgn series DIY blasters?

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    1. Anonymous,

      It performs similarly to my SGN-R3L blaster, but abit less range than my SGN-PAR55M (due the difference in plunger volume).

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  33. What kind of fps does this beast get? I want to compare it to my plusbows, and get a reference point on 1 3/8 k26 homemades

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    1. Anonymous,

      It depends on the weight of the stefans used and their barrel fit... but generally with lighter 1.1 gram stefans the FPS is around 190-200 (ranges average around 120-130ft), while with heavier 1.5 gram stefans the FPS is abit slower at 170-180, but ranges get slightly further at 130-140ft.

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    2. Wow. That is really surprising. With my plusbow, built using the original templates still available on captain slug's website, I can get 230 fps using 1.3 gram tips and a 12 inch cpvc barrel. I don't know of your plusbow has a little less draw, but mine uses the original notches on the website I mentioned. The spring has about 4 cm more of possible spring compression.

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    3. Anonymous,

      Your FPS measurements are definitely possible, every plusbow is abit different depending on the workmanship, draw, plunger seal, barrel fit, stefans etc... so it looks like you have a more optimized setup.

      That being said, my FPS measurements tend to vary +/- 10% when recording a series of shots and i have seen some odd shots which hit around 210-220 FPS before too (especially with the lighter stefans), but those were the higher-end readings, so i just average them out with the lower-end readings to get a final measurement. :)

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